Fred Phelps Rhetoric

December 11, 1999

WARNING: this may be dangerous to your mental health
An example of Rev. Fred Phelps rhetoric

Link here for a scan of the actual flier.

Fag soldier Winchell died for fag Mel White’s sins

Aging Rev. Mel White is an out-of-the-closet fag preacher who sloughed off his wife and children to "marry" another fag — Gary Nixon. With a soul as black as the nethermost Hell, White — a certifiable messenger of Satan — now transforms himself as an apostle of Christ: "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ." 2 Cor. 11:13. Having com-mitted the ultimate infidelity in putting away the wife of his youth, White — for sodomite lucre — provides a pseudo-religious placebo for trapping young people into lives of sin and shame. One of those won to fagdom by Luciferian "Evangelist" White, was Kansas Citian Barry Winchell. A fellow soldier at Ft. Campbell, Ky., beat his brains out with a baseball bat. As his brains dribbled out on his Army cot, young Barry was heard to moan, "Thank you, Bro. White, for ending my life at 21 and for sending my soul to Hell for all eternity." Rev. 14:9-11. White’s (and Clinton’s) lying fag sins killed Pvt. Winchell.

White admits sodomite beasts are properly called "fags"

At right is Mel White picketing WBC Dec. 10, 1999, with a sign in his right hand that says, "GOD LOVES FAGS." The banner on WBC’s meeting house behind: "GOD HATES FAGS.COM." Yes, they’re FAGS!

White left "wife" Gary home

Below is White’s true wife, Lyla, as she was when he shed her for Gary. White was too ashamed to bring Gary to Topeka. Poor Lyla is much older, wrinkled, sadder today. Will Hell be hot enough for fag Mel White?

Capital-Journal Article: "Rev. White Preaches Reconciliation"

Rev. White preaches reconciliation
By Bill Blankenship
and Phil Anderson
The Capital-Journal

Rev. Mel White vigils outside Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas

The Rev. Mel White, a homosexual minister from Laguna Beach, Fla., walked in front of Westboro Baptist Church to protest the anti-homosexual message of the Rev. Fred W. Phelps, who has become part of the Topeka landscape. White met with Phelps on Wednesday.
David Eulitt/The Capital-Journal

To give up on the Rev. Fred W. Phelps because of his strident anti-homosexual protests is to commit an act of violence against him, the Rev. Mel White, a gay preacher, said Thursday night.

"I think Topeka has suffered more as a city from one man than any other city in the nation," White said at a forum at Washburn University staged by Concerned Citizens for Topeka Inc.

"I’ve heard story after story after story of what you’ve suffered," White said. "It is mind-boggling what you have tolerated, but tolerance is not the goal. The goal is to go beyond tolerance and reconcile."

In October, White achieved a degree of reconciliation with another well-known minister, the Rev. Jerry Falwell.

White apologized to Falwell for the vilification heaped upon the televangelist by many in the gay community. In turn, Falwell admitted to White that his anti-homosexual rhetoric had grown excessive.

White called the encounter an example of how non-violence works, but emphasized one has to engage opponents to produce results.

"Jerry Falwell is not my enemy. He’s my brother, and I need to reconcile with him because we have the same heavenly parents.

"Fred Phelps is not my enemy. He’s my … uh … cousin," said White to the laughter of the crowd.

"We have to believe that Fred Phelps also can change."

White and Phelps met for 90 minutes Wednesday afternoon at the Westboro Baptist Church, where Phelps is pastor.

White said the two agreed to say publicly only that they had met and not go into specifics.

In a Thursday afternoon interview in his office, Phelps called the meeting "very cordial." Phelps said he didn’t sense any friction, but added the two continued to disagree on how God views homosexuals.

Phelps said the central message White brought was one of not preaching against homosexuals because "that makes a lunatic fringe perpetrate violence" against gays.

However, Phelps disagreed with White’s view of the Westboro church’s anti-homosexual picketing.

"He calls Bible meetings we have on the street a public hate demonstration," Phelps said. "Well, I’m not willing for them to take over the lexicon. It is a gospel meeting we have on the streets, not a public hate demonstration."

White called what Phelps and others do "spiritual violence." White turned the tables on Phelps by picketing his church and residence Thursday afternoon.

White carried two pink signs with black lettering. One sign proclaimed that God loves homosexuals. The other said, "God even loves Fred."

"It was done to say, ‘Fred, I love you. God loves you. But I am protesting that you say God doesn’t love gays, and that breaks the heart of God.’ "

While in Topeka, White also met with 47 clergy and religious leaders. He said at his lecture that some had declared their belief that homosexuality is sin. However, White said he didn’t meet with his fellow clergy to defend homosexuality.

"That’s not my goal," he said. "My goal is to advocate dialogue and peaceful dialogue at that."

In spite of their differences, Phelps said White expressed a willingness to keep talking. The two have pledged to continue their dialogue.

"He hopes to come back," Phelps said. "I told him he’d be as welcome as the flowers in spring."

As for White, he recalled how Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was once criticized by his fellow civil rights leaders for suggesting Alabama Gov. George Wallace could change his segregationist views.

"If Wallace can change, Fred can change. If Fred can change, we can change," White said.

Such changes are needed by everyone, said White, who led the audience through some exercises that revealed biases and prejudices.

"Fred just reminds us of how we look some of the time, carrying our signs around the people we love the most and offending them by the way we’re carrying them. The silences. The words. The gestures. It’s not about Fred. It’s about all of us. Hate is about all of us.

"Hate speech cripples the soul and cramps the body and kills the spirit," White said. "Love speech enables and renews and restores."

A Personal Letter to My Soulforce Friends from Jimmy Creech

December 4, 1999


Two weeks have past since the trial in Grand Island, Nebraska. While I still need more time to assess the significance and consequences of the guilty verdict and the penalty, both for me personally and for the movement toward justice and community of which all of us are a part, there are a few things I am clear about and want to share with you now.

First, I am immensely grateful for the support you gave to me, and for the witness that you made in various ways around the country on behalf of justice and to affirm the dignity of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons.

I wish I had some adequate and personal way to say to each of you, "Thank you!" Your support strengthened and empowered me. I never felt alone. I was always clear that I was only one small part of a larger faithful community journeying together in this movement of God in history. You are for me the sign of our Easter faith, confirming our hope that justice, compassion and truth will prevail over bigotry, injustice and death.

The role that Soulforce played in exposing the truth about the trial was extremely important. The Church wanted to reduce the trial to simply holding me accountable as a law breaker. You folks made that reduction impossible. You made it clear that the trial was about the oppression and persecution of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons by The United Methodist Church. This was a gift to the movement. You opened the door and shown light into the Church’s closet of shame. You did this with your very bodies, with dignity, integrity and courage. No one else was willing to take the direct action that you took. What you did was historic!

The trial brought to an end a twenty-nine year relationship that I have had with The United Methodist Church as an ordained minister. The ordination that was taken from me by the jury was given to me by The United Methodist Church. It belong to the Church and the Church had a right to take it back. It was not mine to claim; it is not an entitlement. That is the basic meaning of ordained ministry.

However, the ordination that preceded it and cannot be reclaimed by The United Methodist Church is the one that came with my baptism, and the one confirmed by my call to ministry. These belong to me still, and no institution, jury or person has the authority or power to take them away. I will continue to honor and live out this ordination in all that I do.

This is not to say that what the Church revoked was unimportant to me. There is nothing I love more than being a pastor of a congregation. I know that I cannot be a United Methodist pastor now. I will not dwell on it, but be assured that I grieve what has been taken from me.

But, I grieve more for those who are being rejected, oppressed and persecuted by The United Methodist Church because of who they are and because of who they love. The ordination that has been taken from me is one that The United Methodist Church has routinely denied and withdrawn from Gay people long before it was officially required to do so in 1984. Many gifted persons called by God have been denied ordination because of their sexual orientation. Others have been denied fellowship, if not membership in the UMC. Many have been spiritually and psychologically abused by vicious judgment and condemnation. I am only a casualty of the Church’s bigotry against bisexual, lesbian, gay and transgender persons. They are the true victims and martyrs. I have been punished only for what I’ve done. They are punished for who they are and who they love. The difference is profound. My loss and pain trifles in comparison.

I also grieve for The United Methodist Church. It has wounded and crippled itself with bigotry, legalism and fear. Until these impediments are purged from its soul, The United Methodist Church cannot speak authentically of God’s love in Jesus Christ. Every act and testimony toward that end will be smudged with the evil of its prejudice and persecution of Gay people. We may be witnessing its death, at least the death of the Church we have loved and served. We can mourn the Church that dies; but, we cannot hold on to it and keep it alive if it’s soul is dead. Instead, we must look for the new reality of God’s presence in the world, the new expression and experience of Christ’s body.

I believe it is important to understand my trial, along with Greg’s trial and the judicial process against the Sacramento 68 in the California-Nevada Annual Conference, as resistance within the Church to the movement of God toward Jesus’ vision of an inclusive and just community. The trial resisted but did not end the movement. Rather, it helped to bring clarity and definition to it. It was not axial, but only another movement in the redemptive process of God. It could be seen as a defeat, The UMC’s further fall from grace, or it can be seen as a painful event that opens up new possibilities for change toward the new thing God is doing. I believe it is the latter. I believe there is no way that God’s movement toward justice, freedom, dignity and community can be successfully resisted and denied.

I don’t feel defeated. I am now among the laity of The United Methodist Church, called to the same ministry I’ve always been called to honor, called to "resist evil, injustice, and oppression in whatever forms they present themselves." Called "[a]ccording to the grace given to [me, to] remain [a] faithful member of Christ’s holy church and serve as Christ’s representative in the world." (from the baptismal covenant of the United Methodist Church) It makes no sense to me to leave one habitation of the Christian Church for another, just so I can have the institutional favor and privilege of ordination. When I was ordained, it was my privilege to serve the laity. It is now my honor to serve with the laity.

In practical terms, I intend to become a member of a local United Methodist Church. I intend to complete the book I’ve started. It will include the 2000 General Conference, so I have at least another year of work on it ahead of me. I will continue to accept speaking invitations. And, I intend to support the work of Soulforce, the Coalition (MFSA, RCP, IATC and Affirmation) in its effort to affect change at the General Conference, and to support the Reconciling United Methodists in North Carolina. And as time passes, I know God will call me to other ministries I’ve not imagined.

God bless you! The journey continues, and we continue together!

Love and peace,
Jimmy Creech